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> Clooned animals safe to eat
lisar
Posted: Jan 16 2008, 09:03 AM
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http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstor...?storyid=100004

I was just curious on what everyone opinions were.
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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 09:05 AM
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They were talking about this on the Today Show this morning and I missed it rolleyes.gif I think I was in the shower, or leaving or something...


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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 10:30 AM
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Hmmm I bet they wont feed it to their kids
But they dont mind telling us its ok
I wouldnt feed a dog that crap


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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 10:51 AM
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I wouldn't eat that if you paid me. blush.gif
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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 10:54 AM
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See I am not sure on anyof it. I have never kept up with the clooning thing. So I dont know a whole lot about it. I know DUUUHHH I should read up on it but I havent.
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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 11:14 AM
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FDA Says Meat and Milk From Clones Are Safe
But the FDA has screwed up on so many things from food to drugs
Are you really going to trust them now with this? Not me


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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 11:18 AM
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The most disturbing part of the article is this statement:

"But FDA won't require food makers to label if their products came from cloned animals, although companies could do so voluntarily if they knew the source. "

Yet, in this article they talk about how cloning isn't perfect and many of the animals have birth defects. Even Dolly died of lung cancer (or was going to).

If they want to produce, sell, and eat meat from cloned animals... that's fine and their own choice. But, I should have the right to know exactly what I am eating through properly labeled food. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif growl.gif I think we all need to write our congressman/women on this one!!!!

Looks like it is time to become a vegetarian.


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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 11:27 AM
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This was in my e-mail I hope the link opens it up

http://www.webmd.com/news/20080115/fda-mea...=wnl_nal_011508


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Posted: Jan 16 2008, 07:09 PM
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My main concern isn't with cloning per se, but with our insistence to mess with nature. I think that in some cases the science community isn't doing things to advance humanity so much as because they can. I hadn't heard that cattle or goats were having reproductive problems. I also hadn't read anything where the genetics were coming too close so that there was danger of genetic mutation due to lack of variation. So, other than they are doing this because they can, is there really a reason to continue this research? It's my understanding that cloning is much, much more expensive than natural insemination as is practiced today. It's also my understanding that it is the goal to preserve superior gene lines for the purpose of making superior "product." If this practice becomes the norm, where will the new, previously unknown, superior animals come from? I just think that nature has done it all right up until now, why mess with God's work for no other reason than we can?


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Posted: Jan 17 2008, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (redchief @ Jan 16 2008, 10:09 PM)
My main concern isn't with cloning per se, but with our insistence to mess with nature. I think that in some cases the science community isn't doing things to advance humanity so much as because they can. I hadn't heard that cattle or goats were having reproductive problems. I also hadn't read anything where the genetics were coming too close so that there was danger of genetic mutation due to lack of variation. So, other than they are doing this because they can, is there really a reason to continue this research? It's my understanding that cloning is much, much more expensive than natural insemination as is practiced today. It's also my understanding that it is the goal to preserve superior gene lines for the purpose of making superior "product." If this practice becomes the norm, where will the new, previously unknown, superior animals come from? I just think that nature has done it all right up until now, why mess with God's work for no other reason than we can?

I agree Ed


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Posted: Jan 17 2008, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (redchief @ Jan 16 2008, 10:09 PM)
My main concern isn't with cloning per se, but with our insistence to mess with nature. I think that in some cases the science community isn't doing things to advance humanity so much as because they can. I hadn't heard that cattle or goats were having reproductive problems. I also hadn't read anything where the genetics were coming too close so that there was danger of genetic mutation due to lack of variation. So, other than they are doing this because they can, is there really a reason to continue this research? It's my understanding that cloning is much, much more expensive than natural insemination as is practiced today. It's also my understanding that it is the goal to preserve superior gene lines for the purpose of making superior "product." If this practice becomes the norm, where will the new, previously unknown, superior animals come from? I just think that nature has done it all right up until now, why mess with God's work for no other reason than we can?

I agree with this. I never thought of this way. Thanks Ed.
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Posted: Jan 18 2008, 05:16 AM
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(you, is general. tongue.gif)

Honestly there's all this uproar about it... but what are individuals doing in order to be proactive in their food supplies? Sure, everyone can bi*ch and moan about what's in our food, where it's from... but unless you're growing it yourself or know the farmer that does, there's not much you can do about it. You're lucky the suppliers are sharing with you at all!!

I know where my vegetables come from, they sure don't have a "product of mexico" on them. My spaghetti sauce wasn't canned in a factory, where there could be bug parts, and it's ok!! My meat mostly comes from a hormone free grower.

Obviously I can't do everything myself... I cant grow bananas, I don't raise animals for meat, I don't grow wheat and oats... lol BUT... I DO have control over what I do and do not buy. I choose to grow my own veggies, I choose to buy specific meat from a select farmer, I choose to take the time to make my own bread, yogurt, I choose to can and pickle food grown over the summer to have a stock over the winter.. and I choose to buy what I can't provide on my own, be it hormone ridden or not... I try for organic but it's not always available.

I just don't get it. This continent is so rich in supplies, and yet it balks at every new aspect brought in that could be a benefit to the REST of the world. Not to sound rude to anyone, but if you don't like what you're getting, get what you want somewhere else...be proactive in your boycott instead of wondering what to do next.

On the other hand... I agree with Ed - fooling around with nature is ridiculous. We're not gods, we can't improve on what's already here without having some sort of backlash. Monty Python. Killer Bunnies. Now think of COWS running after you like you're their main food source... there's a whole lotta cows. blink.gif


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Posted: Jan 18 2008, 06:51 AM
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I am not sure what my stance is on cloning. I think if I had a child dying of something and something could be cloned to help my child, my stance on the situation may be different. As far as eating cloned animals -- my gut reaction at this point is "EWWWW, no way". Not sure why - just is.

I agree about not messing with the way things are. I agree that we do have a say in what we eat -- to a great extent, actually. I agree that we, as people in general, don't take a proactive approach to the food situation.


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