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CantWait |
Posted: Apr 21 2009, 10:23 PM
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wcs40110 |
Posted: Apr 22 2009, 11:35 AM
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I love it.
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A&A'smommy |
Posted: Apr 22 2009, 05:54 PM
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Praying For Spencer Group: Moderators Posts: 29,769 Member No.: 243 Joined: 11-August 03 |
its great but I don't understand why people get so uptight when they talk about all the benefits from breastfeeding are you upset that you didn't? I just don't get it
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my2monkeyboys |
Posted: Apr 23 2009, 10:08 AM
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I don't think they'll ever know all the positives from BF, and naturally it is better than artificial milk. That's not to say that feeding a baby formula is bad or wrong, but logically what is made to be used by nature is always going to be better that anything we can create.
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luvbug00 |
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 12:34 PM
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awhat! Group: Members Posts: 10,756 Member No.: 1,984 Joined: 6-June 05 |
interesting read.
I think regardless of what path we choose as woman we are doing as we see fit for our children. there are pros and cons to both breastfeeding or formula as with any other thing.. Dont plan on more kids so this doesnt effect me. BTW the closest tie to heart problems is with gum disease and actually it's proven that smaller people are more at risk as well. hence i can take or leave this subject. Not to mention breast milk nutirition is soley based on the mums intake, if she's doing coke or heroin then formula would obviously be better. so really it's about our choises as individuals. IMO niether is better then the other. -------------------- Mya 7-1-00 |
PrairieMom |
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 12:40 PM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 12,652 Member No.: 2,561 Joined: 24-September 05 |
Thats the truth! I just ditched 2 unopened cans of enfamil that came to my home, unsolicited, plus about $30 in coupons for formula to a formula feeding mom. How do they even know I had a baby?!?! Nice Try enfamil. Just because its free, doesn't mean I'm putting it in my baby. At least not until I absolutely have to. Keep your fingers crossed for me! Its going better this time than it did with the other 2! |
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Nina J |
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 01:38 PM
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Praying For Spencer Group: Members Posts: 2,793 Member No.: 3,398 Joined: 8-March 06 |
I am all for breastfeeding, I think it's great. It provides everything the baby needs, with the health benefits.
But, I don't like the attitude surrounding breastfeeding vs. formula. Some women cannot breastfeed, some choose not to. And that is totally there choice. But I think that society has created an environment where formula feedings mothers feel looked down upon because they aren't breastfeeding. A friend of mine had a baby this year and choose not to breastfeed more than a few times (for the colostrum). She really struggled because she felt like people would look at her as having made a bad choice. If you choose to breastfeed, it is a good choice. But formula isn't that bad either. And I honestly have not seen any drastic differences between breastfed children and formula fed children - in fact, I haven't seen any noticable differences amongst my friends and my own children, some were breastfed, some weren't. -------------------- Nina, Mama to Emily Kate, Odessa Jean & Aysun Aleisha.
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PrairieMom |
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 02:43 PM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 12,652 Member No.: 2,561 Joined: 24-September 05 |
I think the trick is to be confident in the choices you make in your parenting. You have to do what you believe in your heart is best for you and your children, and when you do that , it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. |
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Mama~Love |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 03:49 AM
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Well, feeding a baby substandard food when she knows she has the best food right there(and for FREE!) should make a person reconsider their choice, especially when they know the benefits of breastfeeding. Formula isn't anywhere close to being "like" or "close to" breastmilk. There's no comparison, actually. The formula manufacturers can try, and with good marketing & advertising, they usually succeed in fooling people into thinking it's an OK thing to feed infants. Read the labels - corn syrup solids would NOT be the primary ingredient in breastmilk. They can't make any money off of breastfeeding, so they have to trick people into thinking it's hard to do, a PITA, and that their products are an acceptable substitute when it's not. And the benefits of breastfeeding last a lifetime. Check back in about 50 years & see which kids are doing better. -------------------- |
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mummy2girls |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 05:35 AM
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Thinking of you Spencer! Group: Members Posts: 12,708 Member No.: 156 Joined: 4-May 03 |
I agree breastmilk is better than formula and I admit that i didnt try with Jenna. I was alone and had no support so i gave up way to easily! With Breanna i was so geared up to breastfeed. i had my SIL and MIL to be my support as they are what you call nazi breastfeeders...LOL. And she was taking to it good, not perfect but i knew it was a learning thing for both of us. BUT then i had the complications, and hemoraging 2 litres of blood in surgery. My OB/Surgeon said because of the amount of blood i lost and what my body went through i could stop lactating. And i pumped like crazy and had her to my breast to keep the flow and supply up but as the days went on the supply no matter what i did reduced and then boom i could not make nay at all. So i had to resort to it. yes breast milk is the best but no one should ( and im not saying you guys are im talking about people who havent been in the shoes of why a mom chose formula....) look down on a mom who formula feeds. yes the benfits outweight for sure BUT there are poeple who cant actually breastfeed for medical reasons....
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mummy2girls |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 05:39 AM
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Thinking of you Spencer! Group: Members Posts: 12,708 Member No.: 156 Joined: 4-May 03 |
my husband is the odd ball...he was breast fed up until 12 months and was solely on breast milk until he was at least 10 months before she even introduced solids. he has a TERRIBLE immune system! he can catch colds so easily and it knocks him on his butt for days. and even other illenesses. he is always sick. and more so being a teacher aide and now daddy. It has gotten better for sure but still an annyoance to him..He even got the mumps, measals, chicken pox, whopping cough as a baby as well I was forula fed from day one and i have an amazing immune system.... teh only time i get really sick or catch thinge asily is when im pregnant. I can be barfed on, pooped on, sneezed on, coughed on and i dont catch i. if i get the stomach bug i kick it within 24 hours a cold maby 3 days at the most... This post has been edited by mummy2girls on Jun 15 2010, 05:41 AM -------------------- |
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Mama~Love |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 05:56 AM
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I think the term "nazi breastfeeders" is very offensive. What I get fed up with is why BFing moms always have to consider FF moms' feelings, because we might make them "feel bad". I'm sorry, but if a FFing mom is feeling guilty, that's her own problem for her choices she made, not the fault of BFing moms. It's NEVER the other way around; look at the heckling & complaining people do when BFing moms NIP! NO ONE EVER complains about a FFing mom feeding her child in public, EVER. -------------------- |
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Mama~Love |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 06:03 AM
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There's always an exception to everything, and it's tiring to hear the "I/mychild/someone I know off the streets was FF, and I'm/they're fine." How do you know? There's always other health &/or environmental factors involved. BFing provides the best start that our babies were meant to have to give them the best chances for survival, not something created in a laboratory out of very questionable ingredients. -------------------- |
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moped |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 06:32 AM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 13,078 Member No.: 1,035 Joined: 5-December 04 |
This post is travelling down a very dangerous road - will close my mouth as long as I possibly can - jsut sayin......
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~Roo'sMama~ |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 07:33 AM
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My two cuties :) Group: Members Posts: 7,394 Member No.: 788 Joined: 29-September 04 |
I was thinking the same thing... we've been down this road before. -------------------- |
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lovemy2 |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 07:38 AM
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WOW - Mama Love or I mean Mollie - just WOW
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moped |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 07:58 AM
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I just can't shut up any longer....I tried. Mollie, seriously, you find BF Nazi offensive? Why? Because you are commited to BF'ing your children and "giving them the best start"? And are you actually manufacturing the formula yourself to know the ingredients are questionable? What part of BF Nazi is offensive? I am termed the sleep nazi, and very proud of it! I won't even say if I BF or FF my kids, because clearly it doens't matter, and you would find something wrong with what someone else is doing. Clearly FF and BF kids are very very healthy! You seem to get offended quite easily and I am not sure why. If you are so convinced that what you are doing for your children is right for them, then what is to be "offended" about? And for the recrd, FF mom don't have guilt, not one single ounce of it, you are assuming this. Nobody cares if you BF or FF in public, you are assuming this as well........and if they do complain, who cares! Isn't that what a BF mom would say? Normally I owuld apologize, but I am not oging to because you keeping leaving PC and coming back under a new username and jumping into a controversial post and "get offended". I don't understand. This post has been edited by moped on Jun 15 2010, 07:59 AM -------------------- |
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stella6979 |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 08:23 AM
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I agree with this 100%! -------------------- Life is an incredible journey that is only enhanced by the people you share it with. ~ Rev Run |
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stella6979 |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 08:26 AM
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-------------------- Life is an incredible journey that is only enhanced by the people you share it with. ~ Rev Run |
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Mama~Love |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 08:34 AM
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I am not offended, far from it. I know I have given my kids the best possible start, and have no regrets over anything. Who do you think coined the term "BF Nazi" - it wasn't a BFer! A Nazi was someone who served under Hitler in Germany, incase you didn't know that. I can read labels on cans - if you can't pronounce it, why would you feed it to your baby? I would never use commercial formula, yes, I would make my own if I had to after I sought out donations for breastmilk. I've never had to supplement, thank goodness. -------------------- |
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moped |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 08:52 AM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 13,078 Member No.: 1,035 Joined: 5-December 04 |
You said you were offended by the term Nazi - and yes I am WELL AWARE of what it means and what it is. Why do you always ttwist your words - you clearly said "the term offends me" I can't continue this conversation Mollie. You and your opinions are way to strong for me This post has been edited by moped on Jun 15 2010, 08:55 AM -------------------- |
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luvbug00 |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 08:54 AM
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awhat! Group: Members Posts: 10,756 Member No.: 1,984 Joined: 6-June 05 |
the term nazi has been popularized by a sinefield (sp?) episode where there was a soup guy with strict rules on how his soup was ordered and served. meaning he was adimit it was done his way and right. It's a term that can be offensive in its original context but now is so widely used.. just so you know why some dont find it offensive anymore. But back on topic, i think we all have rights as woman to make the choices we see fit for each of our kids. your supposed to be free to voice your opinion which is fine. We all need to remember that we are not all the same, we cannot all do the same things. ( i cant breastfeed, even if i had wanted to.) We have to be aware that this topic can hurt feelings and anger. We are supposed to teach our children not to judge color or religion, why are then we allowed to judge each other for breastfeeding or formula feeding?? really it's food and in the end as long as you provide for your children the best way you can to sustain their lives then it doesnt matter how you do it. -------------------- Mya 7-1-00 |
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PrairieMom |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 01:15 PM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 12,652 Member No.: 2,561 Joined: 24-September 05 |
I know its not PC ( politically correct ) to say, but it warms my heart to see a good old fashioned knock down drag out around here. I kind of wish it wasn't the same old fight, but its nice to have discussion again. I missed it.
I told Dh that I was going to start a thread titled Abortions, pros and cons... discuss. Sorry. Continue with the discussion. |
moped |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 01:20 PM
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Ruby Member Group: Members Posts: 13,078 Member No.: 1,035 Joined: 5-December 04 |
Good one Tara! And lets add Cry It Out and any other controversial topics we can think of! -------------------- |
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Nina J |
Posted: Jun 15 2010, 02:39 PM
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Praying For Spencer Group: Members Posts: 2,793 Member No.: 3,398 Joined: 8-March 06 |
It seems to me like you seem to believe people who choose formula over breastfeeding do so because they don't want to deal with the time and hassle of breastfeeding. And I personally beleive that is a dangerous assumption to make - if you do not know the reasons why someone says no to breastfeeding, do not comment on it, unless you are willing to offend. Anyway. Everyone accepts your opinion and your choices but you don't have to talk about it like it is the only way and the absolute right way. I hope your kids, in 50 years, are doing well. I am sure all the formula fed bubs will be doing just as well. -------------------- Nina, Mama to Emily Kate, Odessa Jean & Aysun Aleisha.
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