What about a "natural - organics" forum?

We all know what the hot topics are here... so why not have a place where that's what's discussed?

I don't mean like a question or whateve to answer, I'm talking about topics where people actualy want to talk about it, discuss it...

..and for the people who make it clear they don't agree, it could be an all-in-one place to avoid..? lol

Great idea!

Is this a forum on organics/naturals or hot topics that you refer to?

It's very very sad that we have to have a hot topic debate forum on organics/naturals if that's the case.

I think a forum on organics/naturals (without it having to be a hot topic) is a great idea.

im all for it. i mean, we have a breastfeeding forum that isnt heated

lol!

Sorry, I meant stuff that are organic/natural... but also things like topics that seem to be the hot ones here, such as raw milk... but can be things like homeopathy, organic fruits and veggies, organic meat, things like that... cloth diapering, hemp stuff, vegan stuff, just whatever's not mainstream...homemade vs storebough, the why of it... homemade clothing..patterns..just whatever's in the minority..and organics/natural stuff seems to be on the hot list for that

but not just hot topics. Heck there's already a whole forum on breastfeeding/bottlefeeding... lol

I think it is a great idea!! But in all honesty we know that "some" will not like what they read and will still post in here. I don't think there is any way that they would just not voice there opinion???

Good idea! I could learn a lot.

I think with a separate forum for it, there will be guidelines to follow for those posting there, which might include a "no debates" rule.

If some one doesn't agree with what's posted, they sure don't have to reply. Their silence is more than enough to show their opinion.

I agree a place for "natural - organics"
bc ppl. keep repeating posts asking about the same things this way it wont get bumped away and stay above so everyone can keep going back as a referance and or things can be added all the time bc the soap thing was cool but its gone.

it's more to keep people who don't like hearing about it from posting useless comments just ruining the thread, so that the people who actually ARE interested in discussing it can without haveing to justify themselves to people who don't care, and are only coming into a whole separate forum dedicated to that, to cause trouble.

It would be nice to be able to talk constructively about a topic such as the raw milk one, without having to stop drop and roll and have to deal with other things.

With a seperate forum, the people who don't want to read it can stay away. Sort of like the same reason the parenting news was put up...?

either way its a good idea

lol!

Sorry, I meant stuff that are organic/natural... but also things like topics that seem to be the hot ones here, such as raw milk... but can be things like homeopathy, organic fruits and veggies, organic meat, things like that... cloth diapering, hemp stuff, vegan stuff, just whatever's not mainstream...homemade vs storebough, the why of it... homemade clothing..patterns..just whatever's in the minority..and organics/natural stuff seems to be on the hot list for that

but not just hot topics. Heck there's already a whole forum on breastfeeding/bottlefeeding... lol

so, basically a crunchy forum. sure. what ever. I use the "todays topics" button, so I am an equal opportunity poster.

me too

So does that mean someone like myself who may question something (like the questions I now have in the home birth thread) would be considered a "trouble maker" for going in to ask questions? Questions sometimes agitate other members or may be taken the totally wrong way. Sometimes a simple question (for me) may seem like an attack on someone elses beliefs.

I'm not sure how fair it is to put in a forum that I would be interested in (because I do read all the crunchy parts of this board and have learned some) but I may not be able to post in if I question something or say something doesn't work for me. It sounds like it will be a forum full of "you have to agree with the OP or don't post" kind of thing.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

that's not what I meant.... sorry you took it that way.

we all know some members don't agree with most of this side of things... and so they could choose to just not come in and post their rebuttles, so that the people who are genuinly interested in learning about it can do so without fear of the "debate" that generally ensues.

ya, it's sad when a debate starts about not starting a debate..lol!!! I just wish that everyone could mellow out around here some and not get so defensive

I think it's a great idea. I know I may be seen as not being into the organic/natural stuff but there are some things that I'm totally down with. Usually my problem comes when someone states their opinion as fact - then I guess the professor in me comes out. I like to see fact be fact and opinion be opinion and I think sometimes people are mislead by others stating their opinions as fact.

I was JUST coming here to suggest the SAME THING!!!!!!

Great minds Rocky.....


I just want Organic/Green tips. No debate for me

yeah, but there's a difference in coming to ask genuine questions about the subject, and coming in to question those who post the subject, making them out to be "wrong". Most of these types of topics are opinion based, so to come in and say, basically, that "it's just your opinion, it's not fact" would be totally not necessary, it's just rubbing in the obvious, and as seen before, causes unnecessary hurt feelings... we all know that anything that's against typical popular research is "opinions", rather than "fact"... but our life experiences ARE our own facts. Not sure how to explain what I'm trying to say... someone reword me... lol

Maybe there could be a wording of some type, for like - Living like a Hippie or something... where the emphasis is the benefits seen through life experiences rather than the scientific proof from research that the subjects are "wrong". As in, you know, coming into the forum right from the start, that it's PRO-whatever rather than just a topic to debate the pros and cons, but also where the people who aren't Pro-whatever can still come in and ask questions and discuss it to see the other side of things... not to come in and tell us that what we're doing is harmful because it goes against what the CDC, AAP and all that says. That's their "opinion", not "fact".

I would just like to see a place where I can talk about something with likeminded people without having to scroll through all the posts from people who don't believe in it, or are just arguing about it for the sake of arguing about it.

A crunchy forum, I guess, like Tara said... somewhere I know that the people in there WILL be for breastfeeding, cloth diapering, gardening, homemade baby food, organics, etc etc etc or a combination of any of them, or even none of them but a genuine interest... I'm not interested in talking about a subject, like cloth diapers for instance, and seeing 20 replies in which 16 of them are "i don't belive in that" or "it's not for me"... if it's not for you, then don't post!

See I want a forum like that because personally I don't KNOW if it's not for me. I want the resources to weigh it out and see.

For instance, before the post on cloth diapering by Carly's mom (can't remember the name, sorry ) I would of NEVER thought "Oh I'm going to do that!" But the more I think about it, the more I want to try it out. Heck, I don't know, it may not be for me, but I'm thinking I'm willing to try it.

So of the other stuff too, I've simply NEVER thought about. Like making my own butter, or yogurt, or a host of other things. It simply didn't cross my mind. My mom didn't do that stuff, mostly b/c she didn't have time, so why WOULD I think about that. KWIM??

I just want people's life experiences and all that. SURE they may not be what the "government" thinks, but heck, why should I let the government make my choices anyway? They have an agenda and I don't necessarily think it lines up w/my agenda.


I guess what I'm saying is I just want the opinions and experiences of other people so I can motify them to my life, if I so choose. AND I can ask questions and educate myself on HOW they do it, what works for them, ect.

This post has been edited by grapfruit on Apr 11 2008, 09:33 AM

I just saw this... and wanted to reply that I think it's a good idea. I wonder if it would be best as a sub-category under recipes and crafts though or the Health forums.

Thanks Casey - you've more eloquently said what I was trying to.

Now that's a good idea.

yeah, but there's a difference in coming to ask genuine questions about the subject, and coming in to question those who post the subject, making them out to be "wrong". Most of these types of topics are opinion based, so to come in and say, basically, that "it's just your opinion, it's not fact" would be totally not necessary, it's just rubbing in the obvious, and as seen before, causes unnecessary hurt feelings... we all know that anything that's against typical popular research is "opinions", rather than "fact"... but our life experiences ARE our own facts. Not sure how to explain what I'm trying to say... someone reword me... lol

Maybe there could be a wording of some type, for like - Living like a Hippie or something... where the emphasis is the benefits seen through life experiences rather than the scientific proof from research that the subjects are "wrong". As in, you know, coming into the forum right from the start, that it's PRO-whatever rather than just a topic to debate the pros and cons, but also where the people who aren't Pro-whatever can still come in and ask questions and discuss it to see the other side of things... not to come in and tell us that what we're doing is harmful because it goes against what the CDC, AAP and all that says. That's their "opinion", not "fact".

I would just like to see a place where I can talk about something with likeminded people without having to scroll through all the posts from people who don't believe in it, or are just arguing about it for the sake of arguing about it.

A crunchy forum, I guess, like Tara said... somewhere I know that the people in there WILL be for breastfeeding, cloth diapering, gardening, homemade baby food, organics, etc etc etc or a combination of any of them, or even none of them but a genuine interest... I'm not interested in talking about a subject, like cloth diapers for instance, and seeing 20 replies in which 16 of them are "i don't belive in that" or "it's not for me"... if it's not for you, then don't post!

"Living like a Hippie" - LOVE it .

I still think this forum is a great idea. Alot of us have so much to learn about "crunchy" (I love that ) stuff and it would be neat to have a place to exchange ideas about such things.

Rocky I'm sorry I'm responding so late to this - somehow I missed your previous post. I totally see what your saying but I KNOW I'm going to be one of those people who occasionally jumps in and says "That's opinion, not fact." And I swear I wouldn't mean anything personal by it - it's just that you have folks who are looking for information and take the word of others as fact - not because they don't have better sense than not to do so but because the person presented it as fact. And to me there is a difference. It's one thing to say (and can we please not get the whole home birth things stirred up again here folks? I'm only using this as an example because it happened recently) "I think homebirths are safer than hospital births." It's another to say, "I was surprised to learn that homebirths are safer than hospital births." I would never think to challenge the first statement - everyone has the right to their opinion. I would feel almost honor bound by my academic background to challenge the second.

I hope that made sense to someone other than me!