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> Update on the BM problems with Hanna, for Jeanne and Brenda - I messed up
My2Beauties
  Posted: Jan 20 2006, 01:15 PM
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Well the night before last, I gave her 3/4 teaspoon of milk of magnesia, some bites of Raisin Bran, some apple juice and some sliced apples. You best bet she went the next day - twice thumb.gif Which is great, but I think I scared her on the potty again (that same night before she ever went) - I know I'm awful. She had said that she had to pee so we went in the bathroom and she peed on the potty, not even 2 minutes later, literally she said I have to pee pee again and she wanted to sit on the big potty this time and she wanted a book. She was grunting and acting like she had to do #2. So I gave her any book she wanted and let her sit there, she didn't pee obviously but I thought OMG she's gonna do it, she's gonna poop on the potty. So once I think she started noticing it was gonna come out, she closed her legs and tried to get down and really tensed up and started crying again so I started rubbing her back but was also holding her hands and stuff to where she couldn't get up because I honestly thought it was just going to come out and I was going to get really excited and get her going, but it never did (she is really good at controlling that stuff blink.gif ) and she threw a huge tantrum and cried and cried, she never went that night and fell asleep about an hour later. I felt so awful because she was really mad at me bawling.gif I didn't want to scare her, but I just thought it was going to happen, I feel like I've maybe made it worse! She did go the next day but in her pants, which I'm fine with. I'm glad she did go though - twice! So she didn't go yesterday and I didn't give her any milk of magnesia, my mom said to only do that for about a week or so, because I wouldn't want for her to become dependent on a laxative, she said it can mess with her stomach really bad if kept on it long term so I am going to give her 3/4 teaspoon every other night for a week and then if it doesn't soften up (which it was still rock hard when she went and she cried the entier time, per the sitter) I am going to call her doctor. I am going to change her diet at home but it's so hard to know what she eats at the sitter, you know with an aunt that spoils her and a great grandma who can't even tell her no to save her life, I doubt she'll get juice when she asks for milk dry.gif That is just the way it goes - of course they think I'm young and that the only reason she does that now is because she is being potty trained and she'll "get over it", somehow they have seem to have forgotten that she did the same thing in diapers! Don't make me go there however dry.gif Someone else told me Castor Oil - have you heard of that, just sounds harsh KWIM?? Anyways thanks for all your advice and the milk of mag did "get things moving" for her!


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 01:20 PM
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I would sooooooo not give her castor oil! I've heard of PG women taking this to get labor started and 9xout of 10 they regretted it! That would be way too harsh on her little system IMO.

As far as what she eats at daycare, request that they tell you! My sitter sends home a sheet every day with what times the kids took naps, ate, drank, etc. I requested that from day one and the days she forgets to send home a sheet I let her know about it the next day. As a parent you have every right to know, and should know! It also helps me not to make the same for dinner as Kylie had that day. happy.gif

Hope things go better soon. hug.gif


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 01:23 PM
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Don't beat yourself up, you're trying so hard to help her! Hope it gets better. hug.gif
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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 01:26 PM
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ita with karen, no castor oil!!! i am glad you made some progress, even if short lived. just maybe give her a break from "potty pressure" for a bit til she regulates, then try again. kids are more forgiving than you think wink.gif don't be too hard on yourself. hug.gif


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (boogabearzmom @ Jan 20 2006, 04:20 PM)
I would sooooooo not give her castor oil! I've heard of PG women taking this to get labor started and 9xout of 10 they regretted it! That would be way too harsh on her little system IMO.

As far as what she eats at daycare, request that they tell you! My sitter sends home a sheet every day with what times the kids took naps, ate, drank, etc. I requested that from day one and the days she forgets to send home a sheet I let her know about it the next day. As a parent you have every right to know, and should know! It also helps me not to make the same for dinner as Kylie had that day. happy.gif

Hope things go better soon. hug.gif

That is what I thought, then they said not castor oil casterall or something like that, but it sounds the same to me, I thought it sounded harsh. I had heard of PG women taking it too - something I would never ever do. I'll stick with the milk of mag! Oh potty woes rolleyes.gif


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 02:21 PM
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LeaAnn, I had some stuff the doc recommended for Kylie a couple of years ago for constipation/poop trouble. It was called Benkot or something "kot". I can't remember what it was but we only needed to use it once and never had an issue again. Man, I wish I could remember the name. blush.gif


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 02:35 PM
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I have SOOOOO been there LeaAnn, so don't feel bad in the least--I have done all kinds of things on the potty to get her to stay and poop--usually unsuccessful though--I have done some relaxation with her, some deep breathing, some EMDR techniques (a crisis intervention therapy thing smile.gif ) firm talking, sympathetic talking, ignoring, begging, bargaining--you get the picture. It all results in the same thing for us----she would go when her body could just not hold it in anymore. I hope this is an easier road for you---I would consult your doctor with the M of M--my fears were like yours---laxative dependency however he assured me that she needed to get this under control and he prescribed MUCH more Milk of Magnesia---I can't remember but it was at least a teaspoon twice a day or more---I really can't remember--he said we had to get this thing under control because it can cause many more difficulties and believe me, her moods were enough of a problem that I would do anything. She would turn into a CRABBY kid when she was holding it for days.

When we started on the Miralax/Glycolax, it changed everything for us so if what you are trying is just not working, don't hesitate to go to the next step---I researched it and Jeanne did as well and it just made sense for us and it really helped. Jamison had one set back a couple of weeks ago and we just started the meds again and presto--we are back on track and no medication needed. We used this medication for several months initially --our doctor said she could be on it for a year or two without him being concerned about it.

Again, don't worry and do whatever feels right for both of you. Hugs!! hug.gif


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Posted: Jan 20 2006, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (Jamison'smama @ Jan 20 2006, 05:35 PM)
I have SOOOOO been there LeaAnn, so don't feel bad in the least--I have done all kinds of things on the potty to get her to stay and poop--usually unsuccessful though--I have done some relaxation with her, some deep breathing, some EMDR techniques (a crisis intervention therapy thing smile.gif ) firm talking, sympathetic talking, ignoring, begging, bargaining--you get the picture. It all results in the same thing for us----she would go when her body could just not hold it in anymore. I hope this is an easier road for you---I would consult your doctor with the M of M--my fears were like yours---laxative dependency however he assured me that she needed to get this under control and he prescribed MUCH more Milk of Magnesia---I can't remember but it was at least a teaspoon twice a day or more---I really can't remember--he said we had to get this thing under control because it can cause many more difficulties and believe me, her moods were enough of a problem that I would do anything. She would turn into a CRABBY kid when she was holding it for days.

When we started on the Miralax/Glycolax, it changed everything for us so if what you are trying is just not working, don't hesitate to go to the next step---I researched it and Jeanne did as well and it just made sense for us and it really helped. Jamison had one set back a couple of weeks ago and we just started the meds again and presto--we are back on track and no medication needed. We used this medication for several months initially --our doctor said she could be on it for a year or two without him being concerned about it.

Again, don't worry and do whatever feels right for both of you. Hugs!! hug.gif

Oh thank you sooooooooo much! She never did go today and she is fast asleep right now (I can't believe it, it's only 7:30 and she is sleeping ohmy.gif ) but if she wakes up I am going to give her some tonight to ensure she goes tomorrow, if not I am going to just give her some in the morning. If it continues to be hard on her even after M of M I am going to call her doctor, I am only going to give it until Monday or Tuesday of next week, I just can't stand to see her in pain anymore. She is probably ok for today since she went twice yesterday though tongue.gif I still want to make sure she goes again by tomorrow though! You guys just don't even know how much of a help this is, if I didn't have you guys to lean on, I would have no clue what to do right now and I'd probably be freaking! Thanks. Nice to know I can come here and you guys are always such a big help. hug.gif


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